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welcome to the skeptic zone

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the podcast from australia for science

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and reason

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yes it's the skeptic zone podcast

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episode

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655 for the 2nd of may 2021

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adrian hill here from calgary canada

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filling in for richard saunders who is

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on a secret assignment

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well no nothing so exciting richard has

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a cold and sounds like something from

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the black lagoon

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get well soon richard and eat more

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waffles with real canadian maple syrup

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coming on this week's show before

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richard caught the cold he recorded a

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report

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about some crazy covid19 vaccine

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conspiracy

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flyers that were found on cars parked at

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an australian hospital

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how crazy are they find out at the top

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of the show

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after that i return with a follow-up

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report to my segment

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from a few weeks ago about bad things

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happening in threes

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do good things also happen in threes

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then to round off the show

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richard chimes in once more with the

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trove report looking at historical

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newspapers

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but this time from the usa and the

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investigations of the bay area skeptics

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and psychic predictions

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also listen out this week for the

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skeptical fairy godmother angel

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from the internet so no matter where you

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might be driving a giant truck across

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you might be walking the dog in scotland

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you might be enjoying a weekend

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at a beach house in australia i hope you

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enjoy

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as i mentioned sometimes on the show if

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you go to skepticzone.tv

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and look at the show notes for each week

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there's a permanent link there for

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coronaconspiracy.cloud

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this is where you or anybody can upload

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crazy wacky and dangerous

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corona virus conspiracies or bad cures

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flyers leaflets photographs taken on the

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street things like that

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and some flies have come to my attention

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which i think i'll be putting up there

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these flyers were found stuck

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on the wiper blades the windscreen

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wipers of cars in the car park of a

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private hospital in the state of

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and i will describe them to you

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the first flyer has the top half

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sunset australian skies with a couple of

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it says worldwide rally for freedom

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join us in the international stand for

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freedom peace and human rights saturday

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12 p.m australia wide

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melbourne batman park brisbane brisbane

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fraser coast freedom park palmer

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darwin nightcliff for sure park

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with the url the peoplesrevolution.com.u

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with no liability for a quote

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if doctors are so sure that the quote

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end quote are safe then why do they

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need protection laws but we

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don't get any join millions of people

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around the world to unite stand up and

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take back our freedom

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please turn over for useful links now

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what are these useful links on the other

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censorship including google is currently

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discrediting anyone

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going against government agendas that

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here are some useful links one vaccine

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and adverse reactions two we can lower

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the population through vaccinations

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three pcr test not designed for

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covert medical network cops for covert

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concerned lawyers network know your

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reunite democracy i stand in the park

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like-minded people every sunday 10 am

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links at the bottom in red it says it's

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time to unite

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this all ends when we say no

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remember if it doesn't add up do your

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research

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oh but it doesn't stop there the next

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is not a legal defense you are licensed

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with links to international criminal

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consisting of new technology

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damage and death doctors and scientists

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this can include permanent disability

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that holds you personally responsible

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eliminate the virus prevent you from

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prevent you from spreading the virus to

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human cell into becoming

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a pathogen creator this is not a vaccine

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stop the avn so on and so forth

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skeptics in the pub once again in

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the pub thursday the 6th of may 2021

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australian skeptics present dr

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paul says i think we've been drawn into

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when we identify as atheists we are

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you can count on adrian with

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after my musings about the saying bad

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things happen in threes

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i wondered if anyone thought the

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opposite that good things happen in

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threes

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it seems that upon investigation there

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are many beliefs and sayings around the

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positive effect of all things three

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and it has been an important number in

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many cultures throughout history

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most people have heard of pythagoras for

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his famous theorem

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a squared plus b squared equals c

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squared

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the pythagoreans who followed pythagoras

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revered numbers according to wikipedia

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they held the number 3 to be more

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special than the other numbers

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since it represented the states of

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existence

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beginning middle and end and the

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goodness of each person

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prudence drive and good fortune other

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reasons for the reverence to three

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are that three points define a triangle

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in a plane

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and the god apollo symbol was a triangle

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in classical greek mythology there was

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the olympic triad of

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zeus athena and apollo in hinduism

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there are the three deities brahma the

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creator

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vishnu the preserver and shiva the

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destroyer

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in christianity there is the holy

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trinity the father

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the son and the holy spirit this is just

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a small sample

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of what i found the expression third

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times a charm or a third time lucky

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is often heard as a good luck appeal

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before someone attempts something after

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their second try

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these can sometimes be heard when my

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family is playing games such as yahtzee

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in hopes that a third role will produce

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a six

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when someone loses three hands in a row

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in poker they might jokingly say

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that the fourth or fifth time will be

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lucky but if

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in the next game they lose the first two

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hands but win the third

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they might cherry-pick their memory to

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confirm the saying

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if we are learning a new skill such as

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skiing a new

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challenging run and we are successful on

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the third attempt

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can we then conclude that good things

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happen in threes

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or that the third time's the charm or is

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it more likely that the practice

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done in the first two attempts make the

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third more likely to succeed

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the history of these two sayings is

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difficult to determine

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many dubious sources on the internet

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ascribe the saying to the holy trinity

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according to gary martin at the website

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the phrase finder

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there is not a lot of evidence for this

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one explanation used

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is an old english law that stated if you

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survived execution three times

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you would be freed in 1885

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john babacombe lee was convicted of

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murdering his employer

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and was sentenced to hang all three

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attempts failed and he was later

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released

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but interesting as this event is the

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expression predates it

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in alexander hislop's 1862 book

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the proverbs of scotland martin asserts

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the sayings are old

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and likely folk beliefs about

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perseverance

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third time's a charm is a manner of

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saying try

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try and try again have you ever noticed

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how many folk tales are based on the

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number three

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for example the three little pigs and

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three billy goats gruff

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or that they have groups of three such

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as cinderella and her two evil

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stepsisters

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and rumplestiltskin and his three

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guesses

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one of our most famous analogies rooted

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in folk literature is the goldilocks

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principle

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which arises from the temperature of

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three bowls of porridge

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in sports such as cricket and hockey

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there is the hat trick

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where a bowler takes three consecutive

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wickets or a hockey player scores three

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goals in a game

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canadian football has three downs

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baseball has three strikes

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horse racing has win place and show and

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the trifecta

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which a better can win by predicting

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which horse will come first

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second and third in the upcoming

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olympics a select few will win gold

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silver and bronze medals

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i could go on think of the many phrases

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we know that are grouped in threes

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see no evil hear no evil speak no evil

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the good the bad and the ugly and from

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the united states constitution

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life liberty and the pursuit of

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happiness

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in my research i kept coming across

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disciplines which have developed

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a rule of three this is so prevalent

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that there is a list on wikipedia there

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are rules of three for computer

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programming

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statistics hematology aviation writing

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and even wicca

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in wicca the rule of three prescribes

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that the energy that a person puts into

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the world

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will be returned to them three times in

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german folklore

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a triangle with a cross in each corner

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and a prayer in the middle was said to

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protect cradles from witches

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and to prevent gout in japan a

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tri-colored or calico cat

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is thought to be a protective spirit

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that attracts good luck

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wealth and prosperity japanese sailors

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would often take these cats aboard

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to protect them from misfortune at sea

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in writing whether it be drama or comedy

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it is commonly thought that a trio of

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incidents or characters is the most

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engaging

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satisfying and memorable for the

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audience

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in comedy jokes often have three

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subjects a scotsman a german and an

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american

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a priest a doctor and a lawyer or my

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take on a classic

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a statistician an engineer and a

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computer science are in a car

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heading to the rocky mountains for a

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hike the car breaks down in an area with

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no cell reception

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the statistician says what is the

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probability that another car will drive

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by and help us

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in the next 10 minutes the engineer says

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let's create a list of possible

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solutions and the cost and time

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associated with each the computer

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scientist says

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why don't we get out of the car then get

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back in and see if it will start up

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again

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so-called inspirational writers will

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attempt to motivate us with such waffley

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threes as

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beautify your thoughts thoughts are the

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headwaters of action

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life and manifestation said by david

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avocado wolf

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or the way you think the way you behave

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the way you eat can influence your life

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by 30 to 50 years

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by deepak chopra i prefer this

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inspirational quote

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by reba mcintyre to succeed in life you

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only need three things

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a wishbone a backbone and a funny bone

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within advertising the rule of three has

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been used repeatedly to get your

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attention

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reuse reduce recycle just do it

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from nike i'm loving it from mcdonald's

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most are aware of mind body and spirit

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the favorite of the so-called health and

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wellness industry

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why are all things three so common there

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has been quite a lot of research about

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memory

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that might help to explain this in 1956

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bell labs published a paper called the

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magical number seven

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plus or minus two where the author

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miller demonstrated that people can

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repeat back no more

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than seven randomly ordered chunks of

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information either letters

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digits or words later research has shown

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that this was optimistic

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multiple studies by nelson cohen and

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others have shown that young adults can

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only recall

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three to five chunks and as we age

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things do not improve

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cowan has shown that the number of

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chunks that can be held in working

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memory

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decreases as we age so just as our

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brains are pattern seeking

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perhaps our working memory limits what

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appeals to us what if we looked for the

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significance of other numbers

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with a quick google search for the

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number five in our lives

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i had these titles pop up purpose and

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the life path of the number five

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why is the number five so important

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angel number five

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continuing in my odd number search when

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i substituted in seven for five

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up popped seven reasons we are

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captivated by the number seven

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angel number seven and magnificent seven

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the meaning in history behind the

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world's favorite number

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so it appears that as we look for

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meaning in our lives every single digit

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number

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has been assigned significance although

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the number three

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is not alone in seeking notoriety it has

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been important in the past

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present and will most likely still be in

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the future

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people events and things grouped in

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three appeal to us

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while many superstitions and sayings are

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based on the venerable number

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and having both beliefs bad things

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happen in threes and the best things

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come in threes

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covers all possibilities allowing us to

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validate the saying that corresponds to

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the situation at hand

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quite like what we have found the

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psychics in the great australian

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prediction project do to hedge their

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bets

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now it is time for me to head upstairs

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and make myself

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hey adrian hi susan out for some

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shopping eh

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yep i'm stocking up on this imitation

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maple syrup from australia

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imitation imitation

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00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:52,480
no no no no you need to buy the real

578
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:52,880
thing

579
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:56,000
from canada but i saw the tv commercial

580
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:58,000
and it said that noted pancake eating

581
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:59,600
expert richard saunders says it's the

582
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:01,440
best maple syrup money can buy

583
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:03,120
and sixty percent of people preferred in

584
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:04,559
a blind taste test

585
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:07,440
everyone knows it's the best oh come on

586
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,400
susan

587
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:10,720
you know better than that that's the

588
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:12,240
argument from authority

589
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:15,440
it is or is it the argument from

590
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:16,559
popularity

591
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,919
hmm it might be another logical fallacy

592
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:21,039
i'm not sure

593
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:22,799
really if only we had a way of finding

594
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:33,350
hello everyone oh my it's the skeptical

595
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,600
fairy godmother angel from the internet

596
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:38,080
yes that's right but how did you know

597
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:39,200
who i am

598
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:42,480
i listened to the skeptic zone podcast

599
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:44,880
also didn't you used to be the tooth

600
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:45,520
fairy

601
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:50,400
oh yes i remember you

602
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:53,440
i'll never forget your left upper

603
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:54,000
lateral

604
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,000
incisor would you like it back no

605
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:01,200
it's okay you keep it hey skeptical

606
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,880
fairy godmother angel what are you doing

607
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,400
here in the supermarket

608
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:06,720
i've come to tell you that you can find

609
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:07,520
out about

610
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:09,679
40 different logical fallacies on

611
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:10,559
youtube

612
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:14,640
in one handy location listen to each one

613
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:17,360
to hear an explanation and examples of

614
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,070
just go to tinyurl.com

615
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,080
logicalzone and you'll find all the

616
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:30,240
logical fallacies with michelle

617
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,360
bickersmart with handy time codes to get

618
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:35,120
to the exact one you want

619
00:24:40,669 --> 00:24:38,400
who is michelle bigesma um just a friend

620
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:40,679
of mine

621
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:44,080
tinyurl.com logicalzone

622
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,000
thank you skeptical fairy godmother

623
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:48,720
angel i guess you'll disappear in a puff

624
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:51,039
of smoke and thunder now eh

625
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,559
um not quite yet i have a bit of

626
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:56,000
shopping to do

627
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:00,799
susan yes where do i find the australian

628
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:04,159
maple syrup hmm what no no

629
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:06,400
no come with me so-called skeptical

630
00:25:15,610 --> 00:25:07,279
fairy

631
00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:15,620
this is real maple syrup from canada

632
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:25,590
[Music]

633
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,440
now it's time once again to look into

634
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:29,760
the archives of newspapers

635
00:25:35,470 --> 00:25:32,400
articles periodicals and so on normally

636
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,480
we would go to trove

637
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:37,200
trove.nla.gov.eu to see what was

638
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:38,080
happening

639
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,159
in australian newspapers and so on but

640
00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:42,320
this week we're going to cast our net a

641
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,360
bit further

642
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:45,360
and with the help of my good friend ben

643
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,360
radford from squaring the strange

644
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:49,679
i have access to some american

645
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:50,880
newspapers

646
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:54,159
united states

647
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,919
and in relation to the ongoing

648
00:26:01,029 --> 00:26:00,000
great australian psychic prediction

649
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:01,039
project

650
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,880
i thought i'd look up references in the

651
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:04,720
united states to

652
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,559
psychic predictions and more importantly

653
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:10,480
the skeptical take on some of these

654
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:11,600
predictions

655
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,840
now it seems that the references i've

656
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,120
discovered

657
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:17,600
all revolve around the san francisco bay

658
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,320
area

659
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,080
that is to say the skeptical

660
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:22,880
investigations of the bay area skeptics

661
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:24,400
no group i'm very pleased to be

662
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:32,710
and the first uh item comes to us from

663
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:34,159
the nashua telegraph

664
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:37,520
serving nashua in southern new hampshire

665
00:26:41,549 --> 00:26:40,080
nashua new hampshire friday the 28th of

666
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:41,559
december

667
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,559
1984. whoops

668
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:47,039
1984 proves to be another bad year for

669
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:48,640
psychics

670
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,520
san francisco associated press

671
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,640
california

672
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,799
hasn't slipped into the ocean no

673
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:57,600
lightning bolt has struck mr t

674
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:01,039
and senator edward m kennedy has yet to

675
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:03,200
elope to europe with his secretary

676
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,240
it never ceases to amuse me of the

677
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:07,840
predictions that are made

678
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:10,159
and how short people's memories are said

679
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:10,880
schaefer

680
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,960
a member of the bay area skeptics a

681
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:14,799
group that since 1982

682
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:17,679
has traced the track records of psychics

683
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:20,399
annual prognostications

684
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:23,919
presuming the final four days of 1984

685
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:26,640
don't prove the see is correct after all

686
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:27,039
this

687
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:30,399
year's predictions were dismal

688
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,399
but no worse than any other years

689
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:33,600
schaefer said

690
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,279
thursday 1983 was quite terrible too

691
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:39,679
this kind of thing happens every year

692
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:41,120
for example

693
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:43,600
gene dixon of washington dc predicted

694
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:44,480
that fidel

695
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:47,039
castro's agents would take over two

696
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:47,760
small latin

697
00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:50,320
american countries that drug scandals

698
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,159
would leave the outcome of the olympic

699
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:53,600
games in doubt

700
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:56,000
and that richard burton was very likely

701
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:57,200
to step back into

702
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:00,399
elizabeth taylor's life she somehow

703
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,880
failed to predict burton's death

704
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,320
schaefer said

705
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:06,399
they never seem to do well with

706
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:08,320
specifics like that

707
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:11,919
some psychics are experts at being vague

708
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,640
schaefer said janine dixon is the best

709
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:15,440
of these

710
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,480
she might say nancy reagan is entering a

711
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,480
time of great crisis

712
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,880
that's a great prediction because it

713
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:24,720
says nothing

714
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:28,080
dallas psychic john catchings predicted

715
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,720
kennedy would elope miami psychic mick

716
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:32,799
dane predicted that mr t

717
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:35,679
would be struck by lightning attracted

718
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:36,720
to his gold

719
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:39,679
jewelry and local psychic barbara

720
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,880
masalam

721
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:43,120
foresaw an assassination attempt against

722
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:44,399
president reagan

723
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:47,200
on the campaign trail in october people

724
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,080
say

725
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,120
what about the serious psychics

726
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:53,760
well these are the serious psychics said

727
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,559
schaefer

728
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,640
adding that psychics use publicity from

729
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,320
their annual predictions to attract

730
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,399
customers for private readings

731
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,159
that cost as much as three hundred

732
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,399
dollars but even schaefer admits the

733
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:06,240
tellers of the fortune

734
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:08,480
occasionally were on the mark for

735
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:09,279
example

736
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:12,720
ms masalam predicted a woman would run

737
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,000
for vice president

738
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,880
on the democratic ticket however

739
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,960
journalist jack anderson made the same

740
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:19,600
prediction

741
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:23,600
in a parade magazine article he said

742
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:26,000
most people can do as well by guessing

743
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,679
and a lot of the predictions

744
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:29,760
could be made by anyone who reads the

745
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:30,720
newspaper

746
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:33,279
schaefer said the reverend woods

747
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,399
mattingly

748
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,720
leader of the seekers quest ministry in

749
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,159
san jose

750
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:40,240
was responsible for what schaefer called

751
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,520
the most dramatic prediction of 1984

752
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,840
that the californian coast would drop

753
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:47,039
into the ocean

754
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,440
on thursday mattingly said he backed

755
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,600
away from that prediction this year but

756
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:52,960
was convinced

757
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:56,559
it would happen before the year 2000

758
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,880
there will be a geologic disturbance

759
00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,720
along the southern california coast

760
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,159
that will lead to a very large

761
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:04,080
earthquake or inundation

762
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:07,279
by the pacific ocean or both he said

763
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,240
the timeline is just very hard to get

764
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,480
it's not meant to be an excuse

765
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:14,960
it's just very hard to get after he

766
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:17,039
sensed the disaster would occur

767
00:30:22,389 --> 00:30:20,480
mattingly said he turned to prayer

768
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:22,399
i think the power of prayer changes

769
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,000
things he said

770
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:26,559
when i get a negative forecast i apply

771
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,279
prayer

772
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,600
i see it makes a difference in people's

773
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:30,960
personal lives

774
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:34,080
so why can't we apply it to the planet

775
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,880
and expect to see it all work there no

776
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:37,840
matter the record

777
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:41,919
polls show that 50 to 75

778
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:44,880
of the public believes psychics can see

779
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:46,080
the future

780
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:48,799
schaefer said for many people this is a

781
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:50,480
kind of substitute religion

782
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:53,279
he said for other people they've simply

783
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:53,679
seen

784
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,640
and heard it so many times and they've

785
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:58,559
never heard it effectively

786
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:01,360
challenged and that was from way back in

787
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:03,039
1984 and a lot of that

788
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,559
is simply still true today

789
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:09,120
and i really find that line in here

790
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:10,399
about

791
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:14,640
psychics

792
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:16,399
that's fascinating and it still goes on

793
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,640
because people will criticize skeptics

794
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:21,120
for going after easy targets

795
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,200
well we examine people who make

796
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,000
paranormal claims it's as simple as that

797
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:27,840
and they all think they're serious or

798
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:31,200
they all pose as being serious at least

799
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:35,279
and our next clipping comes from 1988

800
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,919
the 6th of january the syracuse post

801
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,360
standard

802
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:41,679
skeptics keep track record on psychic

803
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:42,720
predictions

804
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,519
by kristen hackerson knight rider

805
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,559
newspapers

806
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:49,440
san jose california you read it here

807
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:50,240
first

808
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:53,200
or second if you buy the tabloids donna

809
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:53,919
rice

810
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:57,200
thorne hall and jessica han will co-star

811
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:59,519
in a charlie's angels type television

812
00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:00,480
series

813
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,039
scientists will discover and hatch baby

814
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:04,480
dinosaur eggs

815
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:06,960
queen elizabeth will step down charles

816
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:07,519
and i

817
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:09,840
will step up that's the word from the

818
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:11,600
bay area skeptics

819
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:13,519
an organization that keeps tabs on

820
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,200
annual psychic predictions

821
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:17,600
so it can rebut them at the end of the

822
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,480
year

823
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,720
nobody has consistently correctly

824
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:22,080
predicted events

825
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,159
said robert shafer a santa clara

826
00:32:27,909 --> 00:32:26,080
california computer programmer

827
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:27,919
and former chairman of the skeptics

828
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,559
group which was formed five years ago to

829
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:33,120
question and often disprove paranormal

830
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:33,840
claims

831
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,919
you would think with a little bit of

832
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:37,039
critical thinking

833
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:38,480
people would realize that the

834
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:40,720
predictions are a lot of hokum

835
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:43,600
schaefer said people's acceptance just

836
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,799
shows how

837
00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:46,799
rare critical thinking is to

838
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,080
counterbalance that

839
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,159
the skeptics announce at the end of each

840
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:52,240
year the accuracy

841
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:55,440
of that year's psychic predictions

842
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,120
the tally not very accurate for instance

843
00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:02,080
san jose psychic sylvia brown predicted

844
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:03,080
that in

845
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:07,200
1987 part of interstate 280 in san jose

846
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,480
would be washed away in june a major

847
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,080
earthquake would strike around the

848
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:13,919
california towns of mill valley and

849
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:14,960
grass valley

850
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:17,360
and ronald reagan would seek a change to

851
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:18,000
the law

852
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:21,840
so he could run for a third term well

853
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:25,279
with 1987 behind us the bay area

854
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:26,720
skeptics point out that

855
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:30,000
virtually no rain fell in june

856
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:32,720
no earthquake hit mill valley and grass

857
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:33,360
valley

858
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:36,320
which are 100 miles apart in any case

859
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:38,159
and reagan didn't try to get himself

860
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,279
re-elected

861
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:41,519
brown could not be reached for comment

862
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:44,480
other 1987 predictions that did not come

863
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,360
to pass

864
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,760
according to the skeptics included

865
00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:49,360
pregnancies for princess

866
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,519
diane fergie and madonna

867
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:55,760
a love affair between burt reynolds and

868
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,640
vanna white

869
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,720
assassination attempts on soviet leader

870
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,080
mikhail gorbachev

871
00:34:06,149 --> 00:34:02,720
and pope john paul ii and a drug

872
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,159
overdose by princess stephanie of monaco

873
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:09,280
and it seems to me that even in papers

874
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:11,200
from the united states the royals seem

875
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:11,919
to get

876
00:34:16,190 --> 00:34:14,720
a lot of mentions okay the next one

877
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:16,200
comes from

878
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:20,079
1990 on the 28th of december 1990

879
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:23,919
annapolis capital psychics

880
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:27,119
bomb out with predictions for 1990. as

881
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,839
predicted

882
00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:30,000
the nation's most famous psychics failed

883
00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:31,480
to accurately forecast

884
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,480
1990 news events and in most

885
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:36,960
cases were just plain wrong the san

886
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,280
francisco bay area skeptics said

887
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,320
yesterday predictions that fizzled

888
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:44,720
included a jackie onassis marriage to

889
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:45,919
rockstar john

890
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:49,040
bon jovi and a tidal wave flooding new

891
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,000
york city

892
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:52,320
did you hear the one about the meteorite

893
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,040
landing in the white house rose garden

894
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:57,440
or the japanese finding a cure for the

895
00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:58,560
common cold

896
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,800
these predictions can prove harmful even

897
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:01,680
dangerous

898
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:03,520
said robert steiner the skeptic

899
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:04,720
spokesman

900
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:07,119
it becomes dangerous when you let other

901
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,200
people control your lives with them

902
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:11,520
each year the skeptics dig up the

903
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:12,400
predictions

904
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,320
made in the year before to the

905
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:16,240
embarrassment of those who made them

906
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,359
steiner said no psychics predicted the

907
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:21,359
genuinely surprising news stories from

908
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,480
1990

909
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:25,040
including the stunning electoral defeat

910
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,560
of the santanistas

911
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:29,040
in nicaragua this year's top stories

912
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,680
were so

913
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:33,280
unanticipated that someone would have to

914
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,680
be

915
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:36,160
really psychic to have predicted them

916
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,960
the group

917
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,760
said in a statement the skeptics

918
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:41,280
describe themselves as

919
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,640
quote a group of people from all walks

920
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,320
of life who support the critical

921
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:48,640
examination of paranormal claims

922
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:51,680
in quote psychic gene nixon predicted

923
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:53,839
that president bush's greatest challenge

924
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:55,359
would come over the summer

925
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:57,040
and he would be forced to make life and

926
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,880
death decisions about troubles in

927
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,200
latin america and china while those

928
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:03,280
regions were relatively quiet over the

929
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:03,920
summer

930
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:06,880
dixon somehow failed to foresee bush

931
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,359
having

932
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,160
trouble in iraq the skeptic said in a

933
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,720
supermarket tabloid in july

934
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,880
irene hughes predicted jacqueline

935
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:16,079
onassis would marry

936
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:19,440
jon von jovi and bryant gumbel would be

937
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:21,520
fired from the today show

938
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:24,880
after a bar room brawl

939
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:27,200
in the same article marie graciate of

940
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,200
los angeles said the

941
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:32,000
largest earthquake on record would hit

942
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,119
the seabed near

943
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,599
new york producing a tidal wave that

944
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,480
would flood

945
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:38,960
manhattan she's also the psychic who

946
00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:41,119
predicted the meteorite in the rose

947
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:41,839
garden

948
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,640
and the cure for the common cold not one

949
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,040
prediction which was both specific

950
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:50,160
and surprising came true the skeptics

951
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:53,599
scoffed and a personal note from me

952
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,920
it's a pity that the journalist used the

953
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:57,680
word scoffed

954
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:01,119
and what i hope the skeptics don't do is

955
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,720
scoff that is make fun or light of these

956
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:05,760
predictions

957
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:09,040
well in in a you know in a sense we sort

958
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:09,280
of

959
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:13,119
can it can be a funny story but

960
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,920
putting the word scoffed does imply that

961
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:17,680
the skeptics are

962
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:20,880
ultimately pleased

963
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:24,000
and um happy to say there i told you so

964
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:25,839
near near now which

965
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:28,400
is just not not really the spirit of

966
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:31,599
skepticism skepticism is an open inquiry

967
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,480
and reporting on the results i hope

968
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:36,560
skeptics don't go around scoffing too

969
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,200
much

970
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,839
now let's skip forward a couple of years

971
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:41,760
to 1992

972
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,240
on the 1st of january in the galveston

973
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:45,760
daily news

974
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:48,800
psychics from coast to coast

975
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:52,480
wrong again associated press

976
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:56,079
san jose california this is what

977
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,680
didn't happen in 1991. california didn't

978
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:01,280
slip into the sea

979
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,400
tom cruise didn't go bald the pope

980
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:05,839
didn't meet a

981
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:09,920
crazed camel and tammy faye baker

982
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:13,520
and imelda marcos didn't open a boutique

983
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:16,880
this is what did happen the

984
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:20,079
soviet union dissolved the kennedy clan

985
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:21,280
faced another public

986
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:24,560
trial the us went to war in the persian

987
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,520
gulf

988
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:28,240
and the psychics from coast to coast

989
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,599
were wrong again

990
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:31,280
i could almost picture something as

991
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,359
crazy as tammy faye baker and imelda

992
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:34,960
marcos getting together

993
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:37,359
it's outrageous but plausible because

994
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:38,720
they're outrageous

995
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:41,760
skeptic society chairman norman sperling

996
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:42,800
said tuesday

997
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:45,200
but it didn't happen although some

998
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:46,640
people out there probably thought it

999
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:47,280
would

1000
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:49,359
not the skeptics especially the

1001
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,680
naysayers in san francisco bay area

1002
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:53,040
skeptic society

1003
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,359
which on tuesday issued its eighth

1004
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,119
annual list of failed psychic

1005
00:39:02,310 --> 00:38:59,680
predictions that made tabloid headlines

1006
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,320
but not news last year some of the

1007
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,320
failed prophecies included

1008
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,800
terry brill predicted a quake would dump

1009
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,560
california into the ocean

1010
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,800
and u.s housing costs would drop as much

1011
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:12,079
as 50 percent

1012
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,280
housing prices slipped a bit as did the

1013
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,680
state but brielle kept her californian

1014
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,200
residency

1015
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:21,280
in her defense brill said that the

1016
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,640
skeptic society

1017
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,960
twisted her predictions around to make

1018
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:26,640
her look wrong

1019
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,800
i never said california would fall into

1020
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:31,440
the ocean and housing prices did fall

1021
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:34,000
she said from her redwood city home i

1022
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:35,760
said the coastline would change

1023
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:38,320
not disappear the skeptics just don't

1024
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,520
like psychics

1025
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:41,920
maria graciate predicted a massive

1026
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,240
earthquake would strike the grand canyon

1027
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:46,400
and actor cruz would lose his hair

1028
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:48,960
because of a stress-related illness

1029
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:52,079
both appear to be in one piece john

1030
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:52,640
monty

1031
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,440
said a former u.s president would die

1032
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,160
and an american tourist would foil

1033
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,960
an assassination attempt on former

1034
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:03,200
soviet president mikhail gorbachev

1035
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:06,800
gorbachev isn't dead but communism is

1036
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:10,240
judy heavenly said pope john paul ii

1037
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:13,920
would have a close call with a charging

1038
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,680
crazed camel and scientists would find

1039
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,560
evidence of extraterrestrial life using

1040
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,880
the hubble space telescope

1041
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:25,599
the hard-to-focus hubble suffered from

1042
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:26,720
gremlins

1043
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,160
but only of the high-tech type

1044
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,640
gene dixon predicted the reverend jimmy

1045
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:34,319
swaggart's ministry would be

1046
00:40:39,829 --> 00:40:37,599
saved by a last-minute donation and she

1047
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:39,839
forecast prince charles and princess

1048
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,480
diana

1049
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:43,200
would announce their separation an

1050
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:44,160
annual

1051
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,359
psychic favorite nixon did foresee the

1052
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,680
release of hostages held in lebanon

1053
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:51,680
and the short tenure of president

1054
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:52,720
jean-francois

1055
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:56,560
aristide of haiti but skeptic society

1056
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:59,280
spokesman robert shaffer dismissed those

1057
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,079
predictions saying most people knew the

1058
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,079
hostage crisis was nearing an end

1059
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:06,560
and haiti presidents aren't known to

1060
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:07,280
last

1061
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:09,680
clarissa bernhard twice predicted quakes

1062
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:10,960
that didn't happen

1063
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:14,560
and said mrs baker and mrs marcus would

1064
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,200
team up

1065
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,920
to open a chain of clothing boutiques

1066
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:19,359
the two shopaholics

1067
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:22,480
are still on the user end of credit

1068
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,200
cards

1069
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,520
lou wright predicted a major quake would

1070
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,760
devastate the los angeles area

1071
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:30,319
and that a famous politician would leave

1072
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:31,520
his wife

1073
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:34,560
for singer whitney houston only brill

1074
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:36,000
could be reached for comment on her

1075
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:37,839
psychic predictions

1076
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,720
but another lou wright who shares the

1077
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,000
female psychics

1078
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:44,960
denver home town and a masculine first

1079
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:45,599
name

1080
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,359
offers to share her 1992 predictions

1081
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,400
when she answered her telephone tuesday

1082
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:54,319
i'm getting so many calls for the other

1083
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:55,599
lou that i might as well

1084
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:58,319
try it she said warren beatty and

1085
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,359
annette benning

1086
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:01,280
will name their new baby daughter

1087
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:02,400
madonna

1088
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:06,480
not so there we go

1089
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,920
some of the past reports in various uh

1090
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:11,839
papers from the united states revolving

1091
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:13,119
the

1092
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:16,160
predictions of psychics as

1093
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,599
reported as commented on by the bay area

1094
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:20,880
skeptics

1095
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,839
and it's been very interesting to trawl

1096
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,040
through the

1097
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:27,520
online resources of american newspapers

1098
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,800
for a change

1099
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:30,880
and once again thank you to my friend

1100
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,000
and colleague ben

1101
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,640
radford from squaring the strange for

1102
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:36,160
helping me to get access to some of

1103
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:36,960
these

1104
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:44,480
online newspapers

1105
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,910
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1106
00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:00,000
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1107
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1110
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00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:41,920
so folks at home we're going to roll uh

1144
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,760
you'll roll yours and i'll roll mine

1145
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,119
and we'll shout out the numbers and see

1146
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,040
if you can guess or predict what the

1147
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,520
dice are going to

1148
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:51,599
oh be you want to play two you've got

1149
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:53,200
three of us now what's your name again

1150
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:54,880
alison hello allison all right here we

1151
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,800
go so cordelia you go first

1152
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:58,480
yep so just tell it the number shout out

1153
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:05,589
four four allison uh three no

1154
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:08,960
it's all right you can guess six and uh

1155
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:09,680
i will guess

1156
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:12,880
mine's going to come up a two

1157
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:16,319
eight we're not very good are we

1158
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,319
sure so we do it one more time all right

1159
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:20,000
here we go there's yours

1160
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,000
i'll go first ah ten

1161
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:26,720
oh it's a nine close what do you say um

1162
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:36,710
nine